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The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: a book review
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 16 05, 2012 12:48 GMT +41
No climate scientist has been subject to more attacks on their science and character than Penn State's Michael Mann, originator of the famed "hockey stick" graph of Earth's temperature history. Dr. Mann has an excellent new book called "The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines" that takes the reader on a fascinating journey to the front lines the high-stakes battles between climate scientists and their detractors. It's a must-read for every serious student of Earth's climate. Along the way, you'll learn about tree rings, the IPCC process, the fossil fuel industry's savvy PR campaigns to discredit climate change science, and get an insider's view of the notorious stolen emails of "climategate."

For those unfamiliar with the "hockey stick", the shape of the graph showing Earth's temperature has a long, relatively flat portion representing the period 1000 AD - 1800 AD--the shaft of the hockey stick--followed by a sharp upward rise that began in the late 1800s and continues to this day--the blade of the hockey stick. When Dr. Mann first published the hockey stick graph in papers he wrote in 1998 and 1999, it quickly became a central icon in the climate change debate. As he writes in "The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars," the hockey stick graph "told an easily understood story with a simple picture: that a sharp and highly unusual rise in atmospheric warming was occurring on Earth." Contrarians bent on discrediting the science of climate change have fiercely attacked the hockey stick, attempting to portray it as the key piece of evidence upon which all of climate change science depends (which is not correct, since many different data sets unrelated to the tree ring studies under attack show a hockey stick-like shape.) The contrarians have adopted "the Serengeti strategy" towards Dr. Mann--"a tried-and-true tactic of the climate change denial campaign...isolate individual scientists just as predators on the Serengeti Plain of Africa hunt their prey: picking off vulnerable individuals from the rest of the herd."

The history of the hockey stick
The book starts with some interesting background on Dr. Mann's career. He got into climate science by accident--while working on his Ph.D. in physics at Yale, funding got tight, and he elected to switch to the Department of Geology and Geophysics, where funding to perform research on natural climate cycles was available. In the mid-1990s, while working on his Ph.D., he helped discover the decades-long natural cycle of alternating warm and cool ocean temperatures in the Atlantic Ocean thought to be responsible for the active hurricane period that began in 1995. He gave the phenomenon the now widely-used name, the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), during an impromptu interview with science writer Dick Kerr. After receiving his Ph.D. in 1996, Dr. Mann moved on into using statistical methods to study past climate, as gleaned from tree ring studies. He takes the reader on a 5-page college-level discussion of the main technique used, Principal Component Analysis (PCA), and shows how his famed "hockey stick" graph came about. It's one of the best descriptions I've seen on how PCA works (though it will be too technical for some.) His inaugural PCA work showing that the 1990s were likely the warmest decade in at least the past 600 years was published in 1998. Since the paper coincidentally happened to be published on Earth Day during the warmest year in Earth's history, the paper received a huge amount of media attention. His follow-up 1999 paper went further, suggesting that the 1990s were the warmest decade in the past 1,000 years, and 1998 was the warmest year. Dr. Mann was appointed as one of the lead authors of the 2001 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report, the massive United Nations summary of climate change science that comes out every six years. We learn some interesting details about the approval process for the 2001 IPCC report, like the fact for two days, the scientists haggled with the Saudi Arabian delegation about one word in the Summary for Policy Makers. The IPCC report's summary requires unanimous approval by all nations, and the Saudis objected to the language that said, "the balance of evidence suggests an appreciable human influence on climate." They debated 30 different alternatives before finally settling on the language, "the balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on climate."


Figure 1. The hockey stick graph as it appeared in the IPCC Third Assessment Report WG1 (2001) summary, Figure 2.20, Northern Hemisphere temperature reconstruction. Tree rings, corals, ice cores, and historical records are shown in blue, and instrumental data in red, from AD 1000 to 1999. The grey shaded region indicates the uncertainty in the annual temperature estimates (there is a 95% certainty that the temperature for any given year lies in the gray shaded region.) The thick black line is a smoothed version which highlights the long-term variations. A similar version of this graph appeared in Dr. Mann's original 1999 paper. Climate scientist Dr. Jerry Mahlman was responsible for giving this graph the nickname, the "hockey stick".

The battle begins
The majority of the book focuses on the battles over the hockey stick that ensued in 1998, as soon as Dr. Mann published his research. He writes: For more than a decade, the scientific community, in its effort to communicate the threat of climate change, has had to fight against the headwind of this industry-funded disinformation effort. The collective battles are what I term the "Climate wars". The battle raged furiously through 2006, when an extensive review of the hockey stick was performed by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS)--an organization founded in 1863 by Abraham Lincoln to "investigate, examine, experiment, and report upon any subject of science" for the purpose of informing government policy. The NAS reaffirmed the validity of the hockey stick, concluding: "based on the analyses presented in the original papers by Mann et al. and this new supporting evidence, the committee finds it plausible that the Northern Hemisphere was warmer during the last few decades of the 20th century than during any comparable period over the preceding millennium." Dr. Mann writes, "One might think that this would have put an end to the accusations once and for all. But one would be wrong."

In November 2009, a few weeks before the December international climate summit in Copenhagen, the RealClimate.org website that Dr. Mann contributes to was hacked into, and a file with emails stolen from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was posted. Dr. Mann explains in detail how these "climategate" emails were taken out context and distorted to appear scandalous by "a massive public relations campaign conducted by major players in the climate change denial movement." To illustrate, he gives the example of Isaac Newton's writings, which can easily be taken out context and distorted to give the impression that he was guilty of "conspiring to avoid public scrutiny," "insulting dissenting scientists," "manipulation of evidence," "knowingly publishing scientific fraud," "suppression of evidence," "abusing the peer review system," and "insulting critics." In the end, no evidence of scientific misconduct was found by any of the five independent reviews of the affair, conducted by the UK Parliament, a CRU commission led by eminent geoscientist Lord Oxburgh, Penn State University, the National Science Foundation Office of the Inspector General, and the University of East Anglia. As a result of "climategate", nothing at all changed in the peer-reviewed scientific literature on climate change. It was a phony scandal.

A fierce advocate of good science
As I read the book, I was impressed by Dr. Mann's tremendous passion for science and knowledge that comes through. He loves figuring out how things work, and stands in fierce opposition to shoddy science and anti-science political attacks. I had the opportunity to sit down over a beer and talk with him at a recent conference, and he had little interest in talking politics. He'd much rather talk about science, and we had a great discussion about hurricanes--he's published several papers that use statistical techniques to estimate how many tropical storms we missed counting in the Atlantic before the advent of satellites. He frequently talks about how science works and the importance of following the scientific method in his book: "The scientific process--left to operate freely--is inherently self-correcting, even if the gears may at times turn more slowly than we would like...Scientists must be allowed to follow the path along which their intellectual inquiries take them, even if their findings and views might appear inconvenient to outside special interests." In the end, Dr. Mann is "cautiously optimistic" that humanity can meet the challenge of climate change, but acknowledges that climate scientists are in a "street fight" against well-funded climate change disinformers bent on obscuring the science.

Conclusion: five stars out of five
The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars: Dispatches from the Front Lines is a must-read for every serious student of climate change science, and gets my highest rating: five stars out of five. The book is $17.78 at Amazon.com. True to its title, the book has spawned its own mini-war in the ratings section of Amazon, where readers either loved it or hated it--75% of the reviews were 4 or 5 stars, while 21% were 1 star reviews. Only 4% of the readers gave it a mediocre 2 or 3 star rating. Some of the 1 star reviews are no doubt there because “Watt’s Up With That,” one of the most prominent climate science confusion sites, put up a post calling on readers to attack Mann’s book and to attack positive reviews.

Links
Besieged by Climate Deniers, A Scientist Decides to Fight Back, an opinion piece by Dr. Mann that appeared on the Yale Environment 360 site on April 12.

Much-vindicated Michael Mann and Hockey Stick get final exoneration from Penn State — time for some major media apologies and retractions. Climateprogress.org blog post by Joe Romm.

An interview with Dr. Mann about his book, "The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars", appeared on Andy Revkin's Dot Earth blog in the New York Times on May 3.

My favorite climate science blog is realclimate.org, which Dr. Mann co-founded. You can see one of the latest challenges to the hockey stick answered in a May 11 post discussing tree ring records from Siberia.

I'll have a new post by Friday at the latest.

Jeff Masters
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451. Bluestorm5 17 05, 2012 01:52 GMT    
Quoting MAweatherboy1:

Probably her little last hurrah...

We just had a near X class solar flare:




Good night everyone
biggest of 2012?
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452. WxGeekVA 17 05, 2012 01:54 GMT    
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453. Chucktown 17 05, 2012 01:56 GMT    
Hurricane Andrew with John Hope - just some reminiscing

Link
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454. washingtonian115 17 05, 2012 01:56 GMT    
Quoting Bluestorm5:
Remember Katrina was 175 MPH Category 5 at one point and also a large storm. Both of these factors created the storm surge of 27 feets over vulnerable coastline in Mississippi, which is one of the biggest ever. Storm surges and flooding is what made Katrina bad... too bad media make Katrina bad ONLY because of New Orleans flooding, which isn't the only reason why she was bad.
Yes I am aware that the most server factor of katrina was her storm surge and that her size had something to do with it.But the coast line played a big role.Take Dean for an example when it made landfall in Mexico.It was a cat 5 but the storm surge was 20 feet(or so I read).It was a big storm as well..
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455. Ameister12 17 05, 2012 01:57 GMT    
Quoting WxGeekVA:
It's like a nuclear bomb went off right over the center! WOW!

Wow! That's very cool looking.
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456. TropicalAnalystwx13 17 05, 2012 02:00 GMT    
Cloud tops have cooled to -80 C or below.

Aletta does not want to go out without a bang.

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457. yqt1001 17 05, 2012 02:01 GMT    
Aletta's last laugh in face of shear and dry air.

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458. nigel20 17 05, 2012 02:01 GMT    
Katrina was a extremely large hurricane, the hurricane force winds extended several times that of hurricane Charley...it's very sad that so much people (above 1500) lost their lives.
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459. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 17 05, 2012 02:03 GMT    


nice nuclear explosion from the nuclear furance
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460. TropicalAnalystwx13 17 05, 2012 02:04 GMT    
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.2 / 999.3mb/ 49.0kt
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461. fmhurricane2009 17 05, 2012 02:05 GMT    
Forecast for rest of tonight for W Central and SWFL.

Tampa, I hope you enjoyed you're rain because I believe that your atmosphere in Hills/Pinellas Counties have been picked over and it will take several hours (tomorrow 4-6 AM) before significant convection will reintiate.
The Main rain bands have been initiated (as of 10 PM) Along I-4 East of 75 to Western Orange County, expect the remaining showers W of 75 to taper off in the next hour, with only 10-20% coverage West of I-75, Polk County Eastward will remain with a 60-90% chance of rain, again tapering as you head East of the FLA Turnpike. N of Tampa, support of convective based Showers and T-storms will decrease as drier air at the upper levels supress and slow thunderstorm formation. Further South, moisture remains high and support is there for a light- moderate steady rain bath across SWFL with occasional pockets of heavier rain in complexes and isolated cells. Severe threat looks extremely limited w/o daytime heating, but do not be surprised if we don't have 1 or two strong to marginally severe thunderstorm where thermodynamics are best... mainly S of Tampa Bay.
Rain totals of 1 to 2 inches are expected with this system combining todays and tomorrows totals and averaging totals out across the area.

Stay safe... if you want me to do a weather forecast for your area, I take requests by mail or on the blog.

Have a great Nite
FM, (NWS Intern Hopeful)
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462. TropicalAnalystwx13 17 05, 2012 02:06 GMT    
Potential hurricane development in the East Pacific, tropical development in the Caribbean, and subtropical development off the East Coast.

All of it can be viewed in this image below.

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463. nigel20 17 05, 2012 02:12 GMT    
Quoting Chucktown:
Hurricane Andrew with John Hope - just some reminiscing

Link
Hurricane Andrew had one of the most impressive eyewall upon impact of Florida...the damage Andrew caused was almost unbelievable...some of the damage was possibly caused by eyewall mesovortices
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464. TropicalAnalystwx13 17 05, 2012 02:22 GMT    
Could you imagine a storm like Andrew hitting in the same area at the same intensity today?
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465. Patrap 17 05, 2012 02:24 GMT    
http://www.solarham.com/



Updated 5/17/2012 @ 02:00 UTC


1476 Produces Solar Flare

Just as we thought we have seen the last of Sunspot 1476, the former active region decided to produce a solar flare reaching near the M5.0 level. The GOES Solar X-Ray data did show M4.6 before it stopped reporting at 01:43 UTC Thursday morning. Because of the sunspots location, any possible CME may be directed mostly away from Earth. Stay Tuned for more information.

M-Class Solar Flare (Early Thursday) - SDO

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466. sunlinepr 17 05, 2012 02:29 GMT    
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467. BahaHurican 17 05, 2012 02:31 GMT    
Evening all.

Quoting washingtonian115:
Yes I am aware that the most server factor of katrina was her storm surge and that her size had something to do with it.But the coast line played a big role.Take Dean for an example when it made landfall in Mexico.It was a cat 5 but the storm surge was 20 feet(or so I read).It was a big storm as well..
The coastline does make a difference. The northern GOM coast is particularly vulnerable to surge from large major category storms because of the bathymetry of the coastline and the swampy lowlying nature of the shore. The Caribbean coastline of the Yucatan is quite different.
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468. nigel20 17 05, 2012 02:38 GMT    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Could you imagine a storm like Andrew hitting in the same area at the same intensity today?
That's something i would not like to see, but such an impact maybe inevitable
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469. PedleyCA 17 05, 2012 02:44 GMT    
How ya Doing Nigel, 89.8 here today.
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470. aspectre 17 05, 2012 02:47 GMT    
CAUTION : I don't know what ilovehurricanes12 is linking to down below in 473...
but the address is to youtu.be which is NOT YouTube. Not interested in finding out what's there because address MIMICRY is often attached to very NASTY garbage, especially including malware.

214 divingpyrate: ...climate warming...to assume it is all man-made is just as ridiculous as saying it does not exist.

True... If ya lose grip on a wine glass held over a granite floor, it wouldn't fall then shatter if it weren't for that pesky party-poopin' physics.
Cain't even begin to tell ya how many times I got blamed for stuff that was obviously physics' fault.
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471. GTcooliebai 17 05, 2012 02:51 GMT    
Reports of 2200+ without power in Mulberry.


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472. nigel20 17 05, 2012 02:52 GMT    
Quoting PedleyCA:
How ya Doing Nigel, 89.8 here today.
I'm good...you're having tropics like temperature. What's up pedley?
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474. PedleyCA 17 05, 2012 02:56 GMT    
Humidity is still under 40%, 82.6 right now. Might not cool off very fast.
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475. allancalderini 17 05, 2012 02:57 GMT    
000
WTPZ41 KNHC 170231
TCDEP1

TROPICAL STORM ALETTA DISCUSSION NUMBER 11
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP012012
800 PM PDT WED MAY 16 2012

THE TROPICAL STORM CONTINUES TO HAVE A DISORGANIZED APPEARANCE ON
SATELLITE IMAGES WITH LITTLE OR NO EVIDENCE OF BANDING FEATURES.
A STRONG BURST OF THUNDERSTORMS HAS RECENTLY FORMED OVER A SMALL
AREA JUST NORTH OF THE ESTIMATED CENTER. THE INTENSITY IS HELD AT
35 KT FOR THIS ADVISORY BASED ON DVORAK RULES AND THE ASCAT PASS
FROM EARLIER TODAY...WHICH INDICATED THAT ALETTA WAS A LITTLE
STRONGER THAN IT LOOKED. DRY AIR AND SOUTHERLY SHEAR ARE LIKELY TO
TAKE THEIR TOLL ON THE TROPICAL CYCLONE AND ALETTA SHOULD WEAKEN TO
A TROPICAL DEPRESSION VERY SOON...AND DEGENERATE TO A REMNANT LOW
IN 48 HOURS OR LESS. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS CLOSE TO
THE MOST RECENT LGEM RUN AND IS THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS NHC WIND
SPEED FORECAST.

INITIAL MOTION CONTINUES WESTWARD...280/8...FOR THE TIME BEING. A
WEAKNESS IN THE MID- TO LOW-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTH OF ALETTA
SHOULD CAUSE THE CYCLONE TO TURN NORTHWARD WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR
SO. AFTERWARDS...A BROAD LOW-LEVEL WESTERLY FLOW TO THE SOUTH AND
SOUTHWEST OF MAINLAND MEXICO IS LIKELY TO CARRY ALETTA...OR ITS
REMNANT...EASTWARD OR EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD UNTIL THE SYSTEM LOSES ITS
IDENTITY. THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS
ONE AND CLOSE TO THE DYNAMICAL TRACK MODEL CONSENSUS.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 17/0300Z 11.5N 114.3W 35 KT 40 MPH
12H 17/1200Z 12.0N 115.0W 30 KT 35 MPH
24H 18/0000Z 12.6N 115.3W 30 KT 35 MPH
36H 18/1200Z 13.2N 115.0W 25 KT 30 MPH
48H 19/0000Z 13.6N 114.4W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
72H 20/0000Z 14.0N 113.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 21/0000Z 13.5N 111.5W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 22/0000Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER PASCH
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476. WxGeekVA 17 05, 2012 02:57 GMT    
I can see at least 7 blobs the blog was probably yelling to name on here...

2010 Atlantic Hurricane Season
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477. nigel20 17 05, 2012 02:57 GMT    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Evening all.

The coastline does make a difference. The northern GOM coast is particularly vulnerable to surge from large major category storms because of the bathymetry of the coastline and the swampy lowlying nature of the shore. The Caribbean coastline of the Yucatan is quite different.
Hey Baha...how's the weather in your neck of the woods?
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478. Patrap 17 05, 2012 02:58 GMT    
Woah,


LASCO latest Image

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479. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 17 05, 2012 02:58 GMT    
just got a call on my cell phone from area code 202 wash dc area who would call me from wash.dc i answer but they hung up strange
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480. hahaguy 17 05, 2012 02:59 GMT    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Could you imagine a storm like Andrew hitting in the same area at the same intensity today?


I'd hate to see if it hit a few more miles to the north.
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481. PedleyCA 17 05, 2012 03:01 GMT    
That was the outdoor temp, 84.6 inside. Putting up with the heat because I don't want to run the AC. Need to service my Evaporative cooler.
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482. aspectre 17 05, 2012 03:02 GMT    
452 WxGeekVA: It's like a nuclear bomb went off right over the center! WOW!

oh great... What's worse than Tyranosaurs in F-14s?

Hurricanes joining the nuclear club.
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483. Patrap 17 05, 2012 03:02 GMT    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
just got a call on my cell phone from area code 202 wash dc area who would call me from wash.dc i answer but they hung up strange


Tagged..




The Denver protocol is now in Play.
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484. hahaguy 17 05, 2012 03:04 GMT    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
just got a call on my cell phone from area code 202 wash dc area who would call me from wash.dc i answer but they hung up strange


Have you been prank calling the white house again?
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485. sunlinepr 17 05, 2012 03:06 GMT    
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486. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 17 05, 2012 03:06 GMT    
Quoting hahaguy:


Have you been prank calling the the white house again?
i did not even know the area code for wash dc after the call i looked up the area code cause i was interested to see where it was the number was 1 202 xxx 6000
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487. hahaguy 17 05, 2012 03:07 GMT    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
i did not even know the area code for wash dc after the call i looked up the area code cause i was interested to see where it was the number was 1 202 xxx 6000


I see.
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489. Patrap 17 05, 2012 03:09 GMT    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
i did not even know the area code for wash dc after the call i looked up the area code cause i was interested to see where it was the number was 1 202 xxx 6000


U do know the NSA, CIA and FBI monitor all heavily trafficked websites. Your on here everyday as well as many of us.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground

Just imagine dat file.
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490. BahaHurican 17 05, 2012 03:11 GMT    
Quoting nigel20:
Hey Baha...how's the weather in your neck of the woods?
Heya, nige... overcast all day, but not rainy like yesterday. Yesterday was like, WOW! Boom! for most of the mid-day / early afternoon. Some of the worst flash flooding of low-lying areas I've seen in a very long while. It's mostly gone today - the ground's not very saturated yet - but yesterday was impressive.
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491. WxGeekVA 17 05, 2012 03:12 GMT    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
i did not even know the area code for wash dc after the call i looked up the area code cause i was interested to see where it was the number was 1 202 xxx 6000



Maybe all your posts about government got noticed... They're calling you next Pat!
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492. Patrap 17 05, 2012 03:12 GMT    
LASCO spacecraft has Impact from the Plasma ejected from that Burst, as the CCD is saturated and diffuse.



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493. Patrap 17 05, 2012 03:13 GMT    
Quoting WxGeekVA:



Maybe all your posts about government got noticed... They're calling you next Pat!


Im a former Marine, they know me like you know PS2.

: )


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495. sunlinepr 17 05, 2012 03:15 GMT    
Got rainy tonight....



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496. songman77 17 05, 2012 03:15 GMT    
I got a political ad call from Romney's campaign from 202 area code earlier today

Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
i did not even know the area code for wash dc after the call i looked up the area code cause i was interested to see where it was the number was 1 202 xxx 6000
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497. nigel20 17 05, 2012 03:18 GMT    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Heya, nige... overcast all day, but not rainy like yesterday. Yesterday was like, WOW! Boom! for most of the mid-day / early afternoon. Some of the worst flash flooding of low-lying areas I've seen in a very long while. It's mostly gone today - the ground's not very saturated yet - but yesterday was impressive.
Good to know that you are having better weather today
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498. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 17 05, 2012 03:19 GMT    
Quoting songman77:
I got a political ad call from Romney's campaign from 202 area code earlier today

but iam in canada i can't help them maybe its a telemarketer they like to do that so you call back to nail ya on long distance charges maybe who knows if i get a blue boarding pass in the mail i know iam in
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499. sunlinepr 17 05, 2012 03:20 GMT    
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500. WxGeekVA 17 05, 2012 03:20 GMT    
Wow, look at the first blog by Dr. M on here.

Link

Some comments from there:

19. Levi32 4:33 AM GMT on June 22, 2006 +1
Welcom to WU Dr. Master's! ROFL!!!


24. KEEPEROFTHEGATE 8:29 PM GMT on July 29, 2008 +1
hello

26. CybrTeddy 1:42 AM GMT on June 30, 2009 +2
Oh this blog has no idea what it's in for..

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501. WxGeekVA 17 05, 2012 03:21 GMT    
Quoting Patrap:


Im a former Marine, they know me like you know PS2.

: )




I don't know PS2. I am XBOX all the way! :D
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